Energizing from Within: Strategies to Recharge After Energy Leakage

[00:00:21] Aaron: We talk a lot about energy leakage on this podcast and maybe today we can bring in how do we actually right the ship and start charging our energy if we are constantly leaking our energy by not being conscious. And I think that's kind of the topic that I want to talk about here today. I'm Aaron, along with me is Alexander.

[00:00:45] Alexander: Hello everyone. So good to be here. This is going to be an interesting topic.

[00:00:48] Aaron: Yeah. So, most of our episodes are about all the things that we're doing wrong and I know wrong is one of those things where we're judging something. But, if we are talking about consciousness, then all the unconscious things we're doing is a constant energy leakage, and our childhood trauma or any trauma that we've had in our lives, when we're going about our daily business, if something comes up and it triggers us, that also can create an energy leakage. Things that come in that worry us; bills, safety of ourselves or our family members, these are all things that are constantly kind of chewing at us in the background. And I know a lot of mine live in my subconscious where they're like constantly running, and sometimes maybe I don't even realize that they are existing because they're not in my active consciousness where I'm like actively thinking about them. But then, every now and then, I can just check in and I can feel something kind of like hanging on my shoulders, kind of weighing me down and I can check in and be like, "Oh, there's that. I'm still worrying about that".

[00:01:54] So, I know this is going to be a great conversation and maybe is more of a conversation than it is about what to do. We'll see as it goes, but I'm excited to have this conversation, Alexander. What would you maybe define as energy leakage, if we're going to summarize all the podcasts that we've done thus far?

[00:02:12] Alexander: Well, we'll start with the negative emotions, or so-called negative emotions, and, you know, really looking at family lineage and traits that we pick up mainly through our childhood. Like you were saying, a lot of this is stored in the subconscious. So some people are aware of these energy leakages and some people aren't because it's just their life and the way that they've always been.

[00:02:36] So, part of self-development work or awakening, or whatever you want to label, when you start seeing things aren't exactly the way you've been taught or the way that you've seen them in the past and you start seeing things differently, this is one of the things that people notice right off the bat. I get so many people in my private practice that will talk about how they feel worse, when they get into this work, before they feel better. And that's because most people aren't being honest with themselves of all of the energy leakages, again, whether they're aware of it or not. And once you start being aware of that and really paying attention to the people, places, and things that drain your energy, including your own subconscious and your own views and perceptions of the world, it can be overwhelming. But that's part of the-- we can call it a conscious detox-- that you have to release a lot of these patterns to get to a point to create new healthier patterns.

[00:03:38] Aaron: I guess it would be similar to that saying where, "Whatever you focus on, you start seeing more of", so if you are suddenly interested in a yellow car, you start seeing yellow cars everywhere. So, if we suddenly are going to start making it an intention to be more conscious and take responsibility for our emotions and take inventory on where our, kind of, negative mindsets or our leakages are happening, first we need to become aware of it and then we need to make it a priority to do this. [Mm-hmm.] But, I think once we start doing that, like you said, we start to realize everywhere where this is happening, and it can be overwhelming and like you said, it can lead to us feeling worse. Or, maybe even as this stuff is coming out, we're acting out more because it's suddenly all of this trauma is hitting us, where before he was kind of like pushed down and we were keeping it at bay by not being conscious of it.

[00:04:38] Alexander: Right. Suppressing. That's taught in our culture, you know, to suppress pain, to suppress feelings, to suppress emotions, you gotta keep going. "You gotta keep going," is what you know, our society focuses that type of experience on people. Here on the podcast and in the J.U.S.T. Philosophy, that's a big part of our intention is to redirect that energy.

[00:04:58] And I want to give just a basic meaning of energy leakage here, because we're using that term but we're going to get into the full conversation of all Five Levels of the Spiritual, the Mental, the Energetic, the Emotional, and the Physical. And so, we're going to be touching base on possibly how to stop energy drainages and how to so-called charge those energy fields as well. So, I did want to say that even though we are talking about energy leakage, we're actually talking about that on five different levels. And, I wanted to give the most simple definition that I can think of at this time for energy leakage is anytime you are in resistance you are leaking energy. And that's why the power of acceptance is talked about so much throughout this podcast, throughout the philosophy, because true acceptance, again, it doesn't mean condoning or approving of the situation or the person, the opinion, or anything. But see, you can hear a different opinion than yours and not be in resistance to it. That's called allowing and accepting that, Hey, there's different views out here. I don't have to agree with something to be in harmony.

[00:06:22] And, I think that hopefully that's one thing that if anyone gets nothing else from this podcast, just that simple thing. To realize that you can have a different view from somebody and still not be in resistance to it, and the way to do that is through acceptance. And, you know, it goes back to the second pillar of Polarity versus Duality, to realize that everything that's created has an opposite. So, opposites have to exist and that's where acceptance lives, is in the polarity view. And of course, duality is just that. It's in constant dualism because one is trying to correct the other, and that's a nonstop battle through all of time.

[00:07:06] Aaron: Some people may argue that, "Why don't we just keep suppressing our emotions?" Because it's less we have to put up with because why allow all this stuff to come up? And then, it kind of makes your life worse in the short run because they're thinking short term. [Mm-hmm.] But if we are constantly living our lives just fine suppressing, then why would we change things up? But, maybe talk about what that eventually leads to, because if we reduce this down to energy, like you were just saying, anytime we resist something, it's creating this energetic pushing down, suppressing of energy, I guess, is what we're really calling it. Because our emotions are energy, they need somewhere to go. [Mm-hmm.] So, if we just keep suppressing it, it's like we're creating a bottle of soda and we're just shaking it and it's building that pressure, building that pressure, and it needs somewhere to go. So, suppressing it-- the energy has to go somewhere. It's going to go somewhere. It can't just physically dissipate on its own. It's going to go somewhere, so where would it go?

[00:08:07] Alexander: Yeah, the majority of time it winds up turning into illness, you know, unfortunately, and our society's becoming more and more aware of, the term they use is stress, and how much stress really interferes with multiple layers of the body, and that stress is resistance. So, part of self-development or working to gain more consciousness is that you want to stop that suppression and you even want to consider going beyond that to release that that has been suppressed. And, the J.U.S.T. Philosophy, you know, has multiple ways to approach that and we've talked on multiple episodes here on the Wise Whys that the emotion worry is in the abdomen, the stomach area, and it's also connected to the second chakra and our creative and our sexual energy. So see, if a person doesn't have a healthy sex life and they don't have a creative life, then they are going to worry. It's a very, very high likelihood. And so, one of the quickest ways to resolve worry is to do something creative. And by creative I mean anything that's non repetitious, anything that you're not used to doing. It doesn't have to be poetry, or painting, or something like that. Because we get stimulated from new experiences and some people need these new experiences more than others.

[00:09:33] So, that's an example of how, you know, suppression of that emotion worry, and that staying in that constant vibration-- and many people do this-- that it creates all types of digestion and stomach issues, bowel issues. There's all types of labels out there for them, and a lot of that, once it gets into the physical body, it can still be helped by releasing the emotions. And that's emotional processing. And that changes your energetic field, which, you know, all five of those fields that I mentioned a little bit earlier, they all work together.

[00:10:12] The very first step in all of this though, is to see that that spiritual level, the resistance or the energy drain only exists because we think that we know how it should be different than it is. And this is where I like to use our first pillar, that everything's in Divine Order whether we understand it or not. And when we don't think that everything is in Divine Order, or we think that we know the way that it should be, many times that's what creates the friction for these energy drains, which not only continues to suppress, but it makes that area of the body get weaker and weaker over time. And that's where illness or injuries, can happen once that it goes through all four of those levels and it finally is getting into the physical.

[00:11:01] Aaron: So, if we've been taught to suppress, to worry, to think how we want it or how we think it should be is how it should be, which is creating all of this energy leakage that we just covered, isn't the answer to just find ways to charge our energy so we have the energy that could be leaked? Is that one way of doing it?

[00:11:24] Alexander: Well, I mean that's, I'm sure that is one way. You know, many times people work all during the week for the release of the weekend, so our culture is used to that, "I'll pay this cost to get this reward". The path that I like to support and have experienced myself is, let me just get rid of the resistance and not seek all this charging or building of stuff because I see that if you stop the leakage, and then you are developing yourself in a way to where your experiences on a daily basis is building things that you want to build and you want to be part of building, see, you don't have to put any energy leakage or focus on the competitors or the people that are trying to do opposite of you out in the world. All you have to do is chop your wood and carry your water, and I like to say just do the best you can for your team. You don't have to study the other team. You don't have to dissect, try to beat the other team. Just be on your squad.

[00:12:24] My umbrella here is to help people in their self-development and to help them on their relationship paths, to deepen their intimacy, and then to help people that are in physical pain or have health issues, to utilize the four other Levels outside of the Physical to help them to get better and reach optimal Wellness. So see, everything that I do on a daily basis is in somewhere somehow supporting that. So, that charges me automatically that I've developed a life to where, you know, it feeds me to do the things that I need to do to make a living, to continue relationships that I have and that type of thing.

[00:13:08] So we are going to look at some ways to charge our energy, but I still would like to suggest to continue to focus on where you leak it. Where you're around people that start to irritate you or aggravate you, that can lead to anger even, or situations that pull on you monetarily or energetically. Just, it's really good for everyone to just be aware of where their energy's going and work to close up the leaks. And then yes, we're going to get into some ways to also charge all these five different levels as well.

[00:13:41] Aaron: And just to be clear, when we talk about energy leakage, we are talking about it on a five level system and not just like on the physical, because when you are being emotional or you've allowed something to cause an emotional reaction, you're leaking energy on the Emotional Level and it is trickling down to all the other levels. So, they all kind of work hand in hand. If one is out of balance, you're going to feel it no matter if it is the physical or not, right?

[00:14:10] Alexander: Mm-hmm. Right. Yes, yes. And they all are put together, connected together and you know, it does start with the Spiritual and that begins with doubt. And then it goes into the Mental, and that's where the judge sits. Is this right or wrong? And then if it's decided that it's wrong, then is a negative emotion experienced, which weakens the energetic field in the area of the body where that emotion is held. Like I said earlier, the worry is in the abdomen area, and so that normally weakens around the second chakra, the naval, or the third chakra up just under the sternum. And when the energy field gets weakened, then it forms in the actual physical body in the area of that weakness of the field. So, that's how they all work together. And so, when we're talking about healing or wellness, again, we want to be sure that we're working on all five of those to have optimal, healing opportunities.

[00:15:05] Aaron: So if we just focus on finding ways that energetically charge us, and not look at how to stop the leakages, what does that leave us? What does life look like? I know you mentioned the people who work all week for the weekend. Does that create something like a very high-high, low-low where you're kind of oscillating between extremes? Because I feel like if you focus on looking at just the leakages and working through those, and then maybe building up your gratitude practice or something like that, that seems more consistent and more gradual and it's going to build versus doing the opposite.

[00:15:52] So I want you to comment on the opposite, but I then also wanted to just mention or ask you where, because we do get charged on a daily basis by sleep, by nourishment, through food. So there are ways that we are constantly being fed and when we talk about energy recharging or charging, we're talking about things outside of that. So, we are being somewhat replenished depending on our habits, but if we're constantly leaking it, then that energy that we're gaining is constantly being lost as fast as we can gain it, right?

[00:16:24] Alexander: Mm-hmm. Yes. And, you know, one place to start here is with the opposites. And the reason that it doesn't sustain is that having so-called good experiences that charge people's lives, that make them excited about being alive, see that takes energy as well. So, people that work all week for the weekend to have a good time, you know, many times in their good time they're exhausting themselves. They're going to sleep late. They might be getting up early. And so, they go through their weekend of this fun and it was exhausting too. So, there's a limit. Everybody has their limit to where they're just going to be exhausted, and then it doesn't matter necessarily how many tools you have that will charge your energy field.

[00:17:09] Like, you mentioned a couple, the eating, the sleeping, the rest. That's so important. How we think about things, you know, just laughter. That helps to charge the field. Laughter, for some people it's dance, movement, music, prayer, gratitude. You know, right before our podcast, we both spritzed our face with the lavender oil and water mixture that I always have around here, you know, and that is very invigorating to me. So, we can go on and on, salt baths, sound table rides. There's just so many tools and we'll probably mention more, but the other thing is, is that the more that you tighten up on your energy leakages, the more you will get out of those so-called things that you like to do to get charged that will replenish you sooner and quicker.

[00:17:56] So, I don't think it has to be just one way. I think that, anyone that is focused on stopping the energy leakages, there is this natural-- just like we have a natural inclination to eat, we have a natural inclination to need to sleep, and I think we have natural inclinations to charge ourselves in other ways, and some people call it, "I just want to have a good time". So, another charging thing for me is meditation and stillness, because see, the energy field can be ran while the body is still, and this is why we're going to get in the full conversation, into the five different Levels and ideas and suggestions of how to charge those Five Levels and how to stop some of the leaks in all five of the Levels.

[00:18:43] Aaron: So, I kind-of have this visual that I think represents the two ways that we discussed. Maybe if you have a boat and it's a fairly large boat, but there's holes in it, and so our energy leakage is the water slowly seeping in. And so, we can have a bucket where we constantly are picking up the water and throwing it back out, but it's still coming in. And that would be the charging while not paying attention.

[00:19:11] Alexander: Yes. Because eventually, you'll get tired of shoveling the water, and when it gets to that point, you still just have these holes. So, that's why I feel that working on them both simultaneously is optimal because again, this is a lifestyle change we're talking about, it's not just a quick fix thing. So, it's a gradual process. Again, gradual changes over long periods of time equals lasting results.

[00:19:35] Aaron: All right, Alexander. Looking forward to getting into this more and finding out where I can work on my energy charging

[00:19:41] Alexander: Absolutely. Let's journey.

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[00:20:16] Aaron: Thank you so much for joining us for the complete conversation. We are eternally grateful that you have chosen to work on yourselves and chosen us to help you and assist you with that.

[00:20:28] Alexander: Yes. Yes. We are so grateful to get to share with you beautiful people and, again, over seven years now that we've been working on this and sharing and it's fun to get together and have these conversations and hear from you people out there of how you resonate with it and how it helps you in your day-to-day life.

[00:20:44] Aaron: So, we weren't initially sure where this conversation was going to go, but I think in the free version we kind of outlined the energy leakage side and the energy charging side, and I think we're going to go with talking about both and maybe giving you some tools and techniques or steps that you can work on the energy leakage aspect, but then also ways that you can charge yourself outside of sleep and food so that you can work on both simultaneously and work towards optimum and overall wellness on all Five Levels.

[00:21:22] Alexander: Yes. Yes. And again, this is information that is maybe new for some people and we don't want it to be overwhelming by any means when we bring in, well, you don't just have to focus on your energy, you gotta actually focus on five different levels, and that's what this complete conversation is about is to help demystify some of that understanding, simplify it some, and get you on your path to Overall Wellness.

[00:21:47] Aaron: I would love to come up with some ways that people leak their energy that they're not entirely sure like, they wouldn't be able to name them, and it would almost be like a hidden or a very subconscious thing that we could bring up and maybe they could with themselves and take inventory and see if that was one of them. Do you have any off the top of your head?

[00:22:08] Alexander: Yes. Yes. I want to share one that I experienced with my mother probably 8 to 10 years ago. And I think a lot of listeners will resonate with this because this is stuff that gets hidden in the subconscious. And one day, I was visiting my mother and she was in her eighties, and I could empathically feel that she was worrying about something. And I asked her, I said, "Mom, are you worried about anything?" And she said, 'No, no, Son, nothing. Nothing comes to mind".

[00:22:39] And then we talked for a little bit longer and it I just kept having this feeling and I brought it back up again and I said, "Mom, would you say that your bills cross your mind on a daily basis? Just, oh yeah, we gotta pay this bill, or I'm wondering how we're going to pay this bill, whatever." And she went, "Well, yeah, it probably crosses my mind most days". And I said, "And when it crosses your mind, it's probably in a concern type of manner". And she said, "Well, I mean, yeah, yeah". Not that, you know, she said something like, "Not that I'm really, really worried, but it is, you know, there in my mind". And I said, "Mom, I think one of the definitions of worry is a constant thought that has a negative vibration, would be considered worry". And she said, "Well, again, you know, nothing's on my mind that I'm worried about".

[00:23:34] The thing that I want everyone to hear is that my mom went through periods of time of her life where she really worried. That like, most of us do. And when our gauge gets raised to a certain level, say it gets raised to a 10, and 10 is sometimes what people might be labeled with something like the label of PTSD or something like that, and there's, you know, 1 through 10 here. And when you reach a 10, then when you're experiencing the 2s and the 3s, you don't necessarily recognize them. They're just there kind of in the background, like having a lot of windows open on a computer screen, and the more windows you got open, the more it bogs your computer down.

[00:24:15] And so, I did my best to help her to see that she, not in a negative way and not judgment wise, but that she worries more than she realizes that she does. And it is because of that gauge. And so, no matter what the negative emotion is, just be the investigator rather than be the judge. And the difference is, is that the judge sits in that mind level of our being of the Five Levels, and it normally chooses whether something is right or wrong or good or bad, and then it elicits some type of emotion connected to that. See, the investigator isn't interested in right or wrong or good or bad. It's interested in gathering information to expand consciousness, just in general.

[00:25:00] So rather than going, "I don't worry", because maybe you have been at a 10 and now stuff is around 2 or 3, I would like to suggest for you listeners to go, "Let me search out where I worry". That's going to get you a whole lot more information than wanting to decide whether you worry or not, whether you ever get angry or not. And remember, our culture has given different grades, so to say, to these emotions and I happen to see them all equally. And anger is one of the hardest ones for people to admit because it's been given the ugliest labels. But again, being the investigator going, "Where do I get angry in my life?" or "Who elicits anger?" And this is part of the beginning process of just really wanting to be truthful with yourself. This isn't about judgment, because again, we're leaving the judge out of this. This isn't about judging whether we should have anger or not, it's let me go find where I do carry irritation and aggravation and frustration that leads to anger. And so, I wanted to give that example and the more that you've been through in life normally, so-called negatively or negative emotional experiences, you know, that raises your bar. So, this is where being that investigator and truly making friends with that view rather than the judge is so useful because there's no self blame, no self judgment involved, you're just that. An investigator seeking out information.

[00:26:36] Aaron: Yeah, that's very good, because it is about the question that you ask yourself, like how you even phrase it like you said. And that's the name of the podcast, the Wise Whys. It was about the question that you ask, you know, you ask the internal questions rather than the "Why is this happening to me", which is not useful and [Right] even then that question can be energy leakage.

[00:26:56] Alexander: Yes. Yes. And, but when we go into 'Why am I allowing this to affect me this way", then that's where you can stop that energy leakage. See, that's the stop because you're being the investigator rather than the judge. And in an investigation part, you might see a common thread that goes, "Oh, well Bill frustrates me when he starts giving his opinion about politics," or whatever, and I see that there's an association to my brother, my father, you know, somebody from my past. Because again, most emotional situations in the present are just reflecting similar situations throughout your whole life. So, that's where the release is at. That the present day emotional situation is just there to remind you mainly that you are carrying this emotion, like anger, and if you find out where that was instigated and created, and you can go through what we will describe as forgiveness exercises and energetic releases or emotional processing, then that's how you heal the past, the present, and the future, so-called simultaneously. That's how those all fit together. But if we just focus on every emotional situation that happens, see, they have to keep happening to remind us, "Hey, you've got some stuff that you need to unload over here". So emotional processing is a big key and a big part to this work.

[00:28:25] Aaron: What I got out of that was like victim thinking, or if we take on a victim role, then that's automatically a leakage of energy.

[00:28:32] Alexander: Yes.

[00:28:33] Aaron: And it's funny that you brought up politics because you were telling me a story about something earlier and you were talking about your brother resonating with somebody in politics, and it brought up an experience within me that I can kind-of apply here. Where, initially, if I found somebody that I resonated with politically and we would start a conversation, it would be charging. It would be like, "Oh my God, this person has the same view as me! Yeah!" We talk, and then the more we talk about this subject and the subject would ultimately go to a place where we're talking about all the things that frustrate us. And this sometimes happens now, it could be about conspiracies. If I get around somebody who wants to talk conspiracies, I just find myself getting to a place where I start to feel a little frustration come in, and I immediately just have to stop the conversation because I'm like, I don't want to go there just talking about the things that frustrate me because it then it starts to, I feel it in my chest.

[00:29:30] Alexander: Yeah.

[00:29:31] Aaron: Whereas, you know, before I started doing this work, I would still--

[00:29:35] Alexander: Maybe get charged by it.

[00:29:35] Aaron: --to a way I would get charged by it, but it would still leak anyway. So it would kind of be like a combination of both. But now I just, as soon as I feel that, I'm like, "Oh, this doesn't feel good". And so I just need to not.

[00:29:48] And I guess to a certain point, it almost-- I don't want to say that I'm avoiding it, it's just that I feel that initial, "This doesn't feel good. I don't want to talk about this. This isn't bettering my life any [Mm-hmm.] to talk about the things that frustrate me."

[00:30:02] So, from your perspective, I'm not avoiding it, right? I'm just choosing not to talk about the things that I already know and bring up the things that already frustrate me and I should be working on what frustrates me rather than just bringing it up. Right?

[00:30:15] Alexander: Yeah. Yeah. I think that the key there is that you do recognize, and that's what that conversation was for, from my perspective, is to show you, hey, you do still carry like frustration around either how you view this or other people view this or the difference in that. And that is the time to back off of that energy. It's just as similar, you could take it even into like, you know, anger. Once anger gets activated, there's very few people that don't want to follow through with that. And sometimes people will punch walls, or throw things, or many things like that, and this work is about recognizing as soon as you're starting to enter into that anger realm, and then you redirect the conversation, the energy, or simply remove yourself from the situation so that you don't activate all of that. Because again, you're not just activating for that situation, you're activating that energy throughout your whole life. And there's a lot of drainage that occurs in that.

[00:31:18] So see, we want to activate it to recognize it, then it helps to be able to associate it to something in the past. And normally it's around some type of release work, which is connected to, most of the time, some type of forgiveness. And forgiveness is a topic that we need to talk more about because it's something that I find that people fool themselves in, and there's a difference between acceptance and allowing. And see when you're in true acceptance, that is pure forgiveness. But allowing is, "yeah, as long as I don't talk about it too much", "out of sight, out of mind", you know, "put it on the shelf", "sweep it under the rug", whatever you want to call it, but that's what everyday situations are going to activate that we can't so-called get away from ourselves. But, when we choose to see what initiated that anger or that frustration as far back in our life as we can find and find a way to work with forgiveness and acceptance with that, and we might get into a very specific way, then that's what releases that from the past. It makes the present situation much more acceptable, so it extinguishes the exhaustion of the energy. And then yes, then you could go do something to celebrate that process that feeds your energy field. Like for me, I really love salt baths and with essential oils, and music, and movement, and vocal toning, meditation. There's many, many different things that I enjoy so, most of the time, after I do accomplish some type of release, again, it's activation in the present moment, connect it to a string of events or the very beginning time you can remember experiencing that, going through some type of forgiveness work to release that view and change that view changes the view of the present, the past, and how you'll see it in the future. And then you celebrate by doing something that charges your energy field.

[00:33:17] Aaron: Yeah. For me, in that experience, I think that what happens is I've worked on my views a lot and I've redirected it into action and so I'm kind of over talking about it and I can feel myself just really getting tired of just talking about it because I just feel like it's just leaking energy verbally and there's no action that I can do. And so I just feel like it's a waste of energy to even talk about things because I'm already doing-- because I don't want to talk about things unless I'm going to make it useful now. [Sure.] And I've worked on accepting that, you know, even in like the conspiracy realm or the political realm, everybody's here just playing a role. Whether it is the powers that be, the top of the pyramid, whatever it is, they're playing a role to expediate everyone's growth. [Mm-hmm.] If people choose to do that. [Yeah.] So, I've looked at it that way. It's necessary for the mass evolution of souls here in this realm. If those choose to evolve or not.

[00:34:11] Alexander: Yes, because you can either focus on changing and having an effect on the outside world, or work on using the outside world to help you change the way that it affects you on the internal. And I happen to feel that both are needed. This gets back to the Law of Polarity, means that everything that exists, it has to be here at this time. The one thing that we can count on is change. Change is going to happen. I had someone ask me the other day if I thought that there was more awakening happening, and this person said that is seems like in my day-to-day life, I'm seeing more and more people awakening and wanted to get my point of view on that. And again, going back to the polarity view, I happen to feel that there's always been the same amount of consciousness available as there is right now. But what happens is, things shift and move physically on the planet. So, at one time, Rome was at the height of running the world, so to say, and now many people say that America has been that for quite a while and that China is next. And so see that's the one thing we can count on is change. And so what I suggested to this person is just that, like you mentioned about the yellow car. You buy a yellow car and then you start seeing yellow cars everywhere. And it's very similar when you start doing this work, your conversations change, your interests change. So it might seem like you're running into more and more people that are thinking on these wavelengths when you're just changing your vibration, which changes your attraction point, and it changes the things that you're focusing on and looking for. So it can be an increase in your general vicinity, but not necessarily from a worldview.

[00:35:57] Aaron: Oh, I did want to mention that we do have an episode on forgiveness when we talked about the Five Principles of Relating. [Okay.] We do have one of forgiveness. We'll have to go back and listen to it to make sure it does touch on all your points or if we do need another episode on forgiveness. But I did want to also bring in, you talked about your mother. Something that mothers, and maybe fathers, also worry about are their kids. [Mm-hmm.] Or for me, it would be like, my pets and I do find myself worrying about their wellbeing from time to time. [Mm-hmm.] And so, how would one not worry about that. That seems like it's a natural thing for parents.

[00:36:28] Alexander: Wonderful question. And each emotion has a different answer to this. The way I approach worry is action. If you are worried or concerned about something, get up, be creative, and go do something beneficial for that animal, for that person, for that situation.

[00:36:46] Worry is an emotion that paralyzes people and they just sit still, typically, and they're just running things around in the mind. This is also why some people are type A personalities that stay so busy because they can't stand being in their mind. So see, being busy can be a distraction, but people are very productive and can make a lot of money. But see, they're not working on their Overall Wellness. So, learning to take action is normally the opposite thing that when people are worrying what they want to do. So again, I'm going to bring in the saying we use very often, "If it's challenging for you to do, it's probably good for you". So go be creative anytime you catch yourself worrying and go put something into action, like I said earlier, that benefits your team. Looking at your cats as your team, your family as your team, and that we don't need to put our energy toward the other team. We just need to put our energy into our team and benefiting it in a way that will make us basically burn off that worry through the action of doing something that you feel will benefit the animal, the person, or the situation.

[00:38:01] Aaron: Is there a way that a person could also work on their mental to help with that worry so they're not-- Like, they're changing something in their mental perspective [Yes.] So then that worry can cease.

[00:38:13] Alexander: This might be a good time to just kind of utilize all five of the Levels and to realize that when you're in worry, again the Spiritual level is the one on top and the spiritual level normally gets activated or leakage happens when we doubt something, and that's normally just around a preference of ours. Like, we don't want it to rain and then it starts raining, and then we, instead of accepting the rain and going and dancing out in the rain, everybody we talk to, "Oh, is a bummer it's raining today," and "This brings me down," and all of that's a energy leakage. Rather than going, "Man, I was looking for it to be sunny today, but today I'm going to be so grateful that it's raining, and I'm going to go get some out on my face and I'm going to be just as happy today whether it's raining or whether it's sunshine." So--

[00:38:59] Aaron: Well, can, can we bring in the worrying about children as an example? So obviously parents want their children to be happy, healthy, not on drugs, you know, like that type of thing. So apply that to this as you go down.

[00:39:11] Alexander: Well said. So, with that preference, of course wanting is very natural to want to protect your kids, but the more that a person feels that they're in control of that, the less they're practicing faith or practicing trust in any higher power, practicing the faith and trust in prayer. So again, there's an action there that if the child comes into the parent's mind, then they could say like a little protective prayer over them or a blessing. Take a moment to be in gratitude for them being in their life. There's still a call to action there. So, once you work on acceptance, trust, and faith in that spiritual level, and for me it just helps to remind myself that everything's in Divine Order whether I understand it or not. And that's just like a baseline.

[00:39:59] And then the second part is the Mental. And this is where, you know, some people use positive affirmations. I like to use experiences from the past of where I've worried about something and then it played out and was perfect. I couldn't have even planned it to be better. And normally many of us have many, many times through our lives to where we don't know how something worked out, and we might have worried about it over and over. But see, a lot of people connect worry to that you care. And so, I had to come up with a saying that your amount of worry does not equate to your amount of caring. And many people get that mixed up. And when you don't worry, then people think that you don't care. And that is something in the mental, right there, that gets shifted. And so, after shifting that spiritual level of the acceptance, then shifting your mental level to remembering that everything's in Divine Order, your worry then doesn't mean that you're caring more, and that if you truly want to get rid of this worry, I need to go take some action. So right now, I'm going to be in gratitude for my child. I'm going to see them in this beautiful light. I'm going to say a beautiful prayer for them, and now I'm going to go do something else creative with my energy. As soon as the person see relaxes in that gratitude, in that prayer, that's the whole point of it, then that relaxes the energetic field, which then relaxes the physical body. And that's how all of those levels work together. Going through the Spiritual, to the Mental, to the Emotional, to the Energetic, to the Physical.

[00:41:42] Aaron: Yeah. And even being in gratitude for their health, their safeness up until this point, you know, you can reflect upon that and stop the energy leakage with that.

[00:41:53] And I wanted to bring in something that I find myself doing when I feel myself resisting something, having a mindset that is restrictive, and I can kind of think about it, "Okay, this is just energy. I need to find a way to not resist whatever it is that I'm resisting. So, I've gotten it down to thinking about energy so it allows me to remove the judgment of it and become the investigator because I know that it's just energy. And so I ask myself, what can I do to release this energy to allow it to flow? What kind of mindset or perspective change can I take on?

[00:42:24] So, right now I'm looking for a place to buy or rent, but specifically with buying, I had wanted a creek, or a pond or some type of water on the property, and I felt that that has, not hindered the search a whole lot, but it has kept some properties outside my search. [Mm-hmm.] But then I was asked the question, "Do you really need that?" And so that just allowed me to reflect on, "Oh, do I really need that?" It was like the perfect timing of that question, because I would be able to justify it, you know, any other time. But I was grounded when it came in and I was able to be like, why do I want a creek? Is it for survival? Well, the area I want to move has water everywhere, so it's not really about survival, it's really about ambiance. It's really about me. I love flowing water, and it helps me with my self-reflection. [Mm-hmm.] So, then I looked up, well, can I build my own creek? And sure enough, you can! You can build your own creek! So I was like, okay, well maybe I don't need that to be a top level preference. So, that whole thing, it has allowed me to look at my preference and realize that there are things I can do outside of that so I can release that preference and allow that energy to flow.

[00:43:35] Alexander: Yes. And see that's a great example of being creative. And that whole process will be creative. So, it'll be different than you just buying a property with that stream on it that still could technically dry up at some point in time. It's not guaranteed that it'll always be there, but you used creativity to burn some of that energy off for that not to hinder you and to make more options available. And I think that's a great example because creativity is just such a useful ally when working with any negative emotions, even anger, to have a creative way to get the anger out. And, you know, for me in the past it has been through writing poetry and music and getting it out through that. I also love being underwater and screaming, and flailing, and releasing the energy in that way to where it doesn't bother anybody else.

[00:44:29] So, there's wonderful ways to process all these emotions, and we're not going to be able to go through the whole list in this one episode, but we have touched on a few, whether it's frustration, anger, or worry.

[00:44:41] Aaron: And so, before we transition into ways that we can recharge, I did just get this question in. We talk about energy leakage, and then we talked about energy releasing, and those seem like they're similar, but they are, I think, different, right? Because we talk about energy being suppressed and so that we need to release it, but then we're also talking about energy leakage in the same sort of negative tone, or things we're trying to work on. So what would be the difference between those two?

[00:45:13] Alexander: The first term that comes to mind is the word intention. That energy leakage normally doesn't have a conscious intention connected to it. It's a gradual consistency, that over time, like I said, most people aren't even aware of where they're leaking the energy. To where energy release is very similar to that boat analogy, like you said. That there's multiple holes in the boat and water's coming in, and then that gets into compartments, say, over the period of time you are able to patch those holes while you're out on the ocean. Well see, there's going to be areas in that boat to where water gets stored and you don't even know that it's there necessarily. So, that's where intention would come in to where you would consciously poke a hole in it, not to where it's still going to be underwater, but above the water to drain that water out and then plug that hole back up. So that's the main difference between those two terms that we've used very frequently through this episode.

[00:46:15] Aaron: Okay. Very good. Very good. I like that you used my analogy to keep that consistent.

[00:46:20] So, we did get into ways that you can work on your leakage. We walked through the Five Levels, especially looking at the Spiritual, because that's where most of the leakage happens is in that spiritual level where we're doubting something going on. And I guess we didn't really mention Divine Order, but if we breathe into the Divine Order and really consider that being what's in control and not really what we want or what we think should be. I think that takes care of a lot.

[00:46:48] Alexander: Yes. And then another place, you know, just in general about energy leakage, doubt is one of those just biggest energy releases. And I wanted to remind everybody that it's so challenging to practice trust and faith when everything is going your way. So, that's how that's connected to doubt. Again, acceptance doesn't mean that you approve of the situation that's happening, it's just that you're accepting that it's happening and you're not in resistance of wasting your energy wanting it to be different. If you want it to be different, then go do an action right then that is going to benefit your team. Again, don't go attack the other so-called team. Like if, for example, maybe I haven't given a good enough example. This is like, say that you see somebody that you feel like is being mistreated. There's two options. You can go make sure that the person that's getting mistreated is taken care of, or you can go attack the perpetrator that is mistreating. And my energy is always in the suggestion, typically, to focus on the person that needs support and keep your energy in the supportive energy rather than attacking energy.

[00:48:00] So see, you can still change the situation, help the situation, and not leak your energy. But if you go into anger and you go into negative emotions and you're trying to correct the person that's doing the wrong, I'm just suggesting here, if you choose to focus and build your energy in a way to where you're going to look to protect and take care of whoever needs that, rather than being the fixer, the corrector, and getting into the negative emotions and leaking your energy.

[00:48:28] Aaron: That kind of goes hand in hand with the saying, "Would you rather be right or helpful?" [Yes.] Because in this situation, helpful would be tending to that person who is injured in some way or right would be arguing, you know, who was right and attacking that person.

[00:48:42] Alexander: And in keeping that saying, is another mental exercise to just remember, Hey, am I looking to be right here, or am I looking to be helpful? And when we're looking to be helpful, typically our energy isn't going to be leaked. But anytime we're looking to be right, we're more than likely going to leak a good amount of energy. And I wanted to, here, connect that to remember that truth doesn't need to be defended, it only needs to be mentioned. And then work on your team, strengthen your team. Don't worry about the defending part.

[00:49:14] Aaron: So now we're going to transition quickly into the energy charging aspect, and it's important that we are charging ourselves on all Five Levels and not just one, because then we're probably not going to feel as recharged as we could. So, if we're just, working on the physical, so if we're just like lying down but we're still worrying, technically we're charging the physical because we're not moving, but [Right] but again, we're not really getting that energy recharge.

[00:49:43] So, just some of the things that I wrote down are very general, but again, I would like to see if we could find ways that people may not think that they could get recharged. So, I just wrote down like finding the gratitude, which is one we already talked about. [Mm-hmm.] Creativity, we've talked about, getting in nature, grounding, you know, walking barefoot on the ground. It really helps to discharge any sort of energetic output that we have, [Mm-hmm.] On the physical level specifically. Self-care routines, certain experiences that take you outside the norm. So, visiting a place you've never been, and you mentioned music earlier. This is just a quick list, [Sure.] and this is what people would come up with, but what are some things that are more intricate that could hit on all Five Levels at once?

[00:50:25] Alexander: Well, I mean, one thing is the creativity is just so useful, because it just uses a different part of the energy field, a different part of the brain that's different from the logical side. And most of our friction is in the logical world. The creative world, there's not as many rules. That's the beauty of creativity. And why it's good to visit creativity so often is to remember that you get to be in a world that has no rules while being in a world that is full of rules and we can forget that. And that is the beauty of that art of creativity and there's so many different ways to get it. And we want to ask everybody to expand this list. Don't just stop with what Aaron just shared or anything that I've shared, but really expand like what is creative to you. What is something that charges your field?

[00:51:18] For some people, it's being around, like, kids and seeing how free kids live. And you know, when I was studying many different types of paths out there, there was just a consistency that most belief systems carried of getting back to being childlike. And a big part of that is letting stuff go. Children have these emotional experiences, but see, they release 'em and let 'em go many times over and over very quickly. And that's the part that we need to remember. And children, many times, just have this awe about the world. They're not worried. See, worried and excitement are very, very similar energies that have just a small twitch of one charging the field and one depleting the field. Anything can be taken to extreme, and excitement, of course, can drain the energy field too, but it can also be a pick me up.

[00:52:16] So, the main thing is to really, not only think of this on your own, but make this a topic of your general conversations of when you're meeting people. Say, "What do you do in your life to feel alive? What lights you up in your life?" And, I used to have a practice with this that, typically when we meet somebody, we're introduced, we share our names, and then the typical next question is either, "Are you married and have kids?" Or "What do you do to make a living?" And I wanted to make that second question different, so it became an introduction of the names and then it would be, "What lights you up in your world?" Sometimes I would get this funny look and I would just say like, "What sets your soul on fire?" and that would be the beginning of a conversation, because most people don't have answers to those questions. And see, if you don't know that at a call, then you're not likely tapping into it very often at all.

[00:53:13] So, that's why these types of conversations can be very stimulating, and for you to be the example out there, to be able to say, oh, I do this, this, this, this, and this, on a daily basis to make sure that I'm getting recharged and, and fed just like our eating and our sleeping.

[00:53:31] Aaron: And I think this question can go hand in hand with our previous episode on energetic makeup, and if you are struggling to understand what it is that feeds you, you can look up your energetic makeup and maybe it will bring up things on how you are energetically made that will remind you of the things that you really like to do. And, sometimes it's not as easy as, "Oh, I like to play guitar", or "I like to sing", or it could be a very intricate thing. Like for me, it took a while, but if you've listened to all these episodes, you can see how I eventually came to this conclusion, but it came from asking myself The 3 Questions to find your Authentic Self, which I feel like we haven't brought up as much lately, but, I eventually realized that all of the activities I like to do are creating an experience for other people.

[00:54:20] Alexander: Yes. And those three questions are, "Who are you?", "What are you passionate about?", and "How do you exemplify that?"

[00:54:26] Aaron: You could see how I could get to that result through those three questions by just taking inventory of, okay, what are all the activities that I really enjoy? And what's the common thread through that, even on an energetic level? And it's really just seeing people experience something that I creatively created. So, as you were going through that, one of the things for me that would feed me would be cooking for people. [Mm-hmm.] Like, I don't really enjoy cooking for myself as much, but for other people, and then to see them experience something that I created that was probably outside of a normal meal for them, would really feed me.

[00:55:05] Alexander: And that's such a great use of those three questions. It's really a lot more challenging than most people, when they hear those three questions, they can think that they can answer them pretty easily, but if you do a deep dive into it, it can be very revealing and truly help you to stay in direction with your intentions. Because then, see, if you know the answer to those three questions, then anything that comes into your life, anybody that comes into your life, any opportunity, you're able to weigh them and the opportunity of the person is either in alignment with the direction that you want to be going or is steering you away from that direction. And this is why, when you know these three questions and you can answer 'em so well, your discernment happens very quickly. This cuts down on energy drainages where most people make agreements to things that later on they resent or resist even the buildup to it. And, most of the time, that's not because people are clear in their intention and "Does this support my intention in the direction of my life or does it take me away from it?" And we're looking to simplify things here on the Wise Whys Podcast. So, really hoping that this has helped you listeners to really get a different focus on where you drain energy and where you charge your energy field. And let's not forget, the most important thing, possibly, is that neutral state. Because the less oscillating of the life that you can live, then the less charging that you so-called need and the less depleting your so-called experiencing.

[00:56:35] Aaron: And we do have a full episode dedicated to the The 3 Questions, so if you haven't heard that or even considered them, it's a pretty vital part of this work. And Alexander, I wanted to ask you if there's one thing people can do to start working on this topic, homework, for anybody who really wants to take the next step, what would you suggest?

[00:56:55] Alexander: Well, before I make that suggestion, I do want to mention that when Aaron suggested to everyone to maybe check out your energetic makeup, the Human design is what we use to understand the energetic makeup, and it's very useful to know how other people around you are affecting you. It helps you to know where you're being influenced and where you are influencing the world. So, that's in the Human Design and then we use the Destiny Card system as well for an overall view of the personality, the higher self, and the energetic makeup. So now back to your question.

[00:57:29] Aaron: What homework could you give the people who want to take the next step?

[00:57:32] Alexander: The very first place that I want people to start is, many of you heard me talk about the breath, the pause, to take a breath before any action. And that helps you in a stressful situation to remember to pause and not just react. The next step is to work on judgment. And this, I know people want to feel that they aren't judgmental, but again, don't be the judge here, be the investigator and just find where you are judgmental, because when you make a judgment, you create resistance. And then the more that somebody is against your judgment, the more resistance you experience.

[00:58:10] So again, I wanted to bring that back, that you can practice allowing others to have different opinions from you and you not allow that to affect you. That's a powerful, powerful practice. Because the more that you practice, and this is, you know, one of the main works in the philosophy is learn to live outside of your preferences. It doesn't mean you don't have preferences, it simply means that you can set them aside at any point in time to see something more clearly. And when you're able to set that preference aside, you're also able to accept other people's opinions while knowing that that doesn't affect your opinion or your feeling at all. Again, this is where I bring in that truth doesn't need defending, it just needs to be mentioned, and then go put something in action to benefit whatever the altercation is. Again, don't focus on the problem, focus on the solution. And I think that could be a practice for most people for many, many years. But if you learn to practice the pause technique, and then practice non-preference and non-judgment, because that's all the judgment is, is a preference. So, the way that you change your judgment of something is by learning to set your preference to the side. Okay, I'm clear on how I see this, and now I'm going to be more likely to be able to accept this other person's view. And see, if you can't, and this is a subject or a person that's too hard, then I want you to consider that you're not as clear in your feeling of that subject as you think you are. Because there's a sense of calmness when you're very clear how you feel about a subject and you can listen to anybody else's view that's very opposite and it not bother you at all. Because again, acceptance doesn't mean condoning or approving of.

[00:59:57] Aaron: And if you are having trouble discerning whether you are in judgment or not, like you said, it is about preference, a question that I asked myself that you've offered before is, "Do I feel that this situation needs to be different than what it is?" and that helps me to pretty much boil it down instantly.

[01:00:15] Alexander: Yeah. Or even use the "why" there. "Why do I feel that things need to be different?" Because there is a reason. There is a reason, and normally that could be connected to, like, in the past I've said, "Oh, it reminds me of this altercation. I feel judged and it reminds me of my brother 13 years older than me, overpowering me." And so see, when I'm able to release that from the past, it resolves the situation in the present. I'm actually able to see them as a teacher, and when you see someone or a situation as a teacher, there's no more resistance. That's the beauty.

[01:00:49] Aaron: Alright. We appreciate you joining us on this episode of the Wise Whys Podcast.

[01:00:55] Alexander: Everybody, take care. Keep chopping your wood and carrying your water.